Great place to start in tech, maybe not the place to stay - Anonymous employee Grant Street Group Employee Review

3.0
Aug 7, 2024
Anonymous employee
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Pros

The benefits are good. You start with 3.5 weeks of PTO/year; and if you make it to five years, you will have almost 5 weeks of PTO a year. Insurance is also good. You will work with genuinely kind and helpful folks who will not mind dropping what they’re doing to help you. I’ve made some great friends here beyond work, and my network of former coworkers has also been extremely helpful. Regarding the Business Analyst (BA) role, if you are new to the tech industry, GSG is willing to hire you. This could be a great option if you’re a young professional just starting their career and don’t have a CS degree or are someone wanting to pivot into the business side of tech. As a BA, you also will gain a wide exposure to different spheres within the tech industry. In my experience, I was able to wear a lot of hats (coding, QA, client and stakeholder management, customer support, project management, DevOps, and product management just to name a few) and figure out what I really enjoyed. I honestly didn’t realize how much I learned until I left. Professionally, this is what I’m most grateful for during my time there, and I certainly don’t take it for granted. There isn’t a strong culture of demanding long work hours, and GSG was a remote company even before the pandemic. For those looking for a remote job with decent work/life balance, this could be a fit. You get the chance to take a fancy, annual trip to a random city for a company-wide meeting, which is a wonderful opportunity to see your coworkers and have fun in a new place on the company’s dime. The product I worked on also had a separate in-person event in their headquarters in Pittsburgh, which you would travel to similarly if you’re not local and was also reimbursed.

Cons

At the end of the day, you are making it less frustrating for constituents to pay their taxes and for other things to their government. It’s not an extremely exciting problem to solve. The interview process is brutal for an entry-level role. A logic test, a writing sample, an HR interview, a panel interview, and then a super day of interviews with case studies, a presentation, and potentially meeting the co-founders. I made it through interviews for more senior positions and higher pay that were significantly less intense. Pro tip: if you’re told the co-founders were busy at the end of your final interview day and couldn’t meet with you, you might not have gotten the job. The co-founders won’t meet with any candidates that have been already rejected by their performance in previous interviews. Once you’re hired, you are still potentially on the chopping block. I’ve seen plenty of folks get fired during onboarding, which is as much of a trial process as the initial interviews. In my experience, your great experiences will be positive, but your negative experiences can be intense. I’ve spoken with folks who left voluntarily and folks who were let go, and I wasn’t alone. There is a tremendous amount to learn as a BA, and it will take you time to have a full handle on things. I remember as a newbie asking a senior person when they felt like they finally understood things, and they said three years. That was my experience, too. There is little DE&I here. The owners are also socially conservative, which does influence the company culture. I imagine this lack of political stance makes GSG more appealing to government clients. If you want to work for a company that takes a stronger stance on social issues, this isn’t the place for you. The company only hires for a handful of roles, none of them management or senior. If you are farther along in your tech career, I would not apply here. In my experience, the company is growing faster than its culture can keep up. The product I worked on is primarily staffed by folks who have less than two years of experience, many of whom on the business side have little technical experience prior to GSG. GSG is extremely opaque when it comes to pay, and there is a lot of pay asymmetry. This asymmetry matters more as you become more senior. GSG discourages talking about pay with your coworkers (they cannot ban that discussion, as that would be illegal). Personally, I found my conversations about pay with my coworkers to be extremely useful and helpful in determining whether I was making what I was worth and should be advocating for myself. Office politics exist here, despite what GSG may claim when talking about its culture, and they are crucial to understand if you hope to rise the ranks or do not want to be pigeonholed into a role you do not want to do. There are a handful of people that, if you rub them the wrong way or don’t give them the right impression, can put a cap on your career at GSG or cut your time at GSG short. There is a bit of a “drink the Kool-Aid” vibe here that GSG is irreproachable in its ways and culture, which I think distracts from addressing the problems that exist within the company. Middle management is a significant problem, as noted in other reviews. In my 5+ years in the company, I never participated in any upwards feedback as a part of the performance review process. I’ve had managers here that ranged from unhelpful to actively hurtful. I also had a few managers early in my career that were brilliant and cared about me as a person, but they were the exception rather than the rule. There are no defined career path or paths for advancement here on the business side. This worked when GSG was a smaller company that could handle folks making their own career paths, but those days are gone with a much larger workforce. In my opinion, to scale they need to define career paths if want to encourage not turning folks over. Including myself, I have seen lots of people leave because their careers were not moving and weren’t receiving any meaningful professional development. Also, including myself, they often leave for a less demanding job that pays significantly more. Job titles are primarily flat here. I know folks who have been a BA for over ten years. In principle, I don’t think titles are everything; but it becomes a problem when you want to take the next step in your career and need to communicate what you actually have done. GSG doesn’t use BA’s like most software companies, either, so using the GSG title may not help you communicate the nature of your work. Speaking of BA’s, the BA role here is a mishmash of so many jobs that would have separate titles at other companies. While this is great for gaining experience, it’s frustrating when you do find what you want to focus on and still have three other jobs. Or when you feel underpaid for your work once you gain enough experience. There is a general expectation that you figure out your work on your own without a lot of handholding. This can be challenging if you’re moving into a new role or team where you might be working on very different things and need to build new skills. Doing things on your own for professional development, in my experience, wasn’t acknowledged in terms of compensation, and the company does not offer any PD benefits like a learning stipend or tuition reimbursement. The more you learn about the current tech industry, the more obvious it becomes that GSG does things in a different, but not necessarily better, way. Product teams, for example, do not have design or QA teams – those things are done by BA’s and engineers themselves. This can make it more challenging to transition to a new role where you would be working with these different roles and need to show you have experience doing it.

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Grant Street Group Response
1y
Response from our President: Thanks for acknowledging your appreciation of your former colleagues, the benefits of your BA experience at Grant Street, and our commitment to work-life balance. Regarding your comments on DEI, I'm not sure where you find us deficient, but there is one important statistic that belies your assertion: 30% of our new hires are non-white, which is higher than the U.S. labor force rate. On the topic of the company’s social values, as one of the owners, I can assure you that I hold views on social issues that defy the "socially conservative" label you have assigned to me. This is particularly true of my convictions regarding the right relationship between labor and capital, between employers and employees. These ideas are deeply embedded in the company culture that you disparage and they are a vital source of employee satisfaction. Concerning your point about us “only hir[ing] for a handful of roles,” it’s true that most of our senior managers grew into their current positions, which has earned them the respect of their colleagues. However, most of our new hires in software development, IT, project management and business analyst roles have relevant prior work experience. As for your opinion that the company’s growth may outpace its culture, the evidence you cite (i.e. the relative inexperience of your team) bears no relation to the company culture, which, according to other commentaries in this space, is thriving. To be credible, your remarks about "pay asymmetry" would require access to a great deal of confidential information that you didn't have. We don't disclose individual salaries out of respect for personal privacy; however, we do disclose pay ranges in compliance with state regulations. Any disparities in compensation are attributable to differences in experience, performance and varying degrees of job responsibilities. To have attempted to make a meaningful assessment of your "worth" by way of such comparisons would have been fruitless, likely misleading, without access to the confidential employee evaluations of your sources. On the subject of office politics, it should come as no surprise that there will always be some degree of office politics among mortals, but we try to neutralize it with practices like annual written performance reviews (often more frequent), skip-level one-on-one meetings (with the boss's boss), anonymous peer reviews, executive level comp reviews of all employees, anonymous employee feedback channels and a Co-CEO open door policy. Despite these measures, some just will not accept critical feedback, attributing it to office politics. We get some reassurance from not infrequent comments, including in this forum, that there is less politics at Grant Street than any other place the commenter has worked. Nevertheless, we will never slacken in our continuing efforts to minimize it. Lastly, concerning career paths and job titles, we believe it couldn't be more clearly defined or more consistently applied: outstanding performance results in rapid advancement. This explains why we have so many senior managers who have been with the company for 10-20 years and why our turnover rate remains at half the tech industry average. Your other observations about job titles, tuition reimbursements and resume building suggest a misalignment between your priorities and those of your former colleagues. We believe job titles should be descriptive, not honorific. We would rather pay larger bonuses to everyone than tuitions for some. But I think the root of the misalignment is the fact that Grant Street doesn't serve well as a stepping stone along a job-hopping career path in relentless pursuit of bigger and better things. It is, however, an ideal place for humble and hardworking people in pursuit of a fair wage, work-life balance, radical transparency (except their W-2), personal autonomy, job security, satisfied customers, and awesome co-workers with whom they share mutual respect. Thank you for your feedback, and we wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

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Response from our President: Thanks for complimenting your co-workers. It is a welcome tribute to our culture. For the past 20 years, Grant Street has sustained an organic, compound annual growth rate exceeding 20%. Surely such an extraordinary track record requires competent management. And, to your point, it requires lots of pivoting to sustain it, which has been and will continue to be possible only by developing what you describe as our newer, “extraordinary frontline staff”.
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