SMB Capital reviews

4.1

70% would recommend to a friend

(11 total reviews)

Michael Bellafiore & Steven Spencer

80% approve of CEO

80% positive business outlook

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2.0
Jul 6, 2018
Recommend
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Pros

Growing firm in the day trading world. Some 7 figure traders with solid strategies. Some traders are consistently earning 6 figures month over month which is nice to learn from. Great use of KTG technology. (the parent company of SMB) KTG has really strong indicators and smart technology that allows you to trade rebalances and imbalances which most firms technology does not allow. KTG supplies all the capital and technology which is a big step up from the SMB tools, they sell to the general public. Firm is moving in the right direction as they are starting to hire more quants. The firm has a product called cloudquant that allows you to trade black boxes.

Cons

Splits are terrible compared to a lot of firms. Starts below 50/50 and max out at 70%. Training for younger traders has nothing to do with the firms main strategies so if you are new to the day trading world this will probably set you back 6 months until you join a team. Training seems outdated and partners who run the training are not profitable traders so its tough to listen too. Very spread firm from top to bottom. Success rate of new traders is lower than most firms but those that make it seems to make a higher return.

5.0
Aug 15, 2016

They gave me a shot

Recommend
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Pros

I have to say that many reviews of SMB are just downright, 100% wrong. I came to this firm in 2015 as part of a hired class. SMB gave me an opportunity to develop into a great equities intraday trader, which I did not successfully accomplish during my time there. I was surrounded by a number of very successful traders (P/L is openly shared on the desk through our blotters, so I know what many people were making), and I was even paired up with a mentor. I simply could not overcome my own self and master intraday equities trading. SMB has a great culture of working hard to get better as a trader and as a person each and every day. It's not just some slogan they use, it's a real culture. I will always look back and wish I could have been successful there. I had every opportunity to go in the direction I wanted - whether that be scalping, algorithmic models, intraday position trading, news plays, stocks in play, low float biotechs, etc. The firm really gives traders all the resources and technology - it's just up to the trader to find their niche and excel. In fact, I could have simply copied trades from the more successful traders at first, and built up some success. In hindsight, I should have had a much smaller ego and done more of this. I was stubborn in my ways and kept forcing the way of trading that I thought was best - and that was clearly the wrong way to approach things. SMB provides a fair profit split, and reasonable desk fees (which are very low for newer traders to give them a better chance at not getting eaten up in fees). In essence, what I'm saying is that even though I was let go from this firm, I really do not fault them for it. They gave me the seat, the capital, the technology, the coaching, and I fully accept the responsibility of me not achieving greatness there. I think too many people don't make it as a trader at a prop firm, and then go off and talk really poorly about the firm as a means of removing that responsibility from themselves.

Cons

I was a bit in the dark about how much money I could lose before I would be let go. I understand the firm doesn't want to stick to any hard rules on this, and be discretionary in their hiring and firing process, but I do wish I would have known what number I should not have drawn down to before I was really in hot water with management. It was tough because there was no salary, but that was something I came into the situation with full awareness of- SMB told me from the get go, that there would be no salary. So, this isn't really a knock on the firm, but just an honesty about the structure that made it difficult for me.

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