Complete cluster. The first call is with the recruiter who fails to comprehend what you are telling her. She literally has had a list of questions and would go through them one by one paying no attention to what you've said and asking the question you have answered half a minute ago. The recruiter was quite clear that they don't know what the process will look like as they haven't decided yet. The second stage was a call with a director of engineering. Complete waste of time. She could not understand what servant leadership meant and expected me to go into a level of technical detail that was unreasonable to expect considering how wide my current role is. Evasive answers to my questions. Bullet dodged.