Working with "family" sometimes sucks! Culture of Murtha and congressionally directed entitlement is very difficult to overcome. Slow to take action to clean house of those people who are overpaid and under qualified in today's competitive marketplace - mainly in the program/technical arena. Coupled with desire to keep those who've been her forever employed here forever...no wonder they are having problems being competitive. Way too much finger pointing about how all the problems are someone else's making. The SELT isn't a Harvard-trained crack team.....at least they seem to admit it and try to improve things. The hubris of the technical/program leadership is a MAJOR problem - with few exceptions they don't seem to be able to determine who they actually work for and impress their clients while being good stewards of the business as well; most have no desire or ability to actually grow the business (and worse blame somebody else because it isn't growing). Technical leadership seems to drive bright, capable engineers out with an attitude that only tech leadership knows how to do things. In short, the market place isn't buying their UPJ expertise....no amount of blaming Board, SELT, BD, leadership or management will change that. Recent loss of a long term contract should be all the proof needed that a culture of competitiveness is lacking, a culture of entitlement is endemic, and maybe a culture of accountability is lacking as well as I haven't read where that program leadership has been removed.