As soon as I joined several people left. They were the people I wanted to work with. As soon as new leadership came in they started firing people, changing processes, making targets unrealistic, and pitting teams against each other. To this day, I don't think the new managers who were hired have any idea what ZTS is, how it works with the vens, or the type of architecture it uses that makes it unique relative to market offerings. Chaulk it up to lower quality managers, and the rumors about the CEO are true, which is unfortunate.