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Symmetry Financial Group

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Symmetry Financial Group reviews

3.6

59% would recommend to a friend

(1,079 total reviews)
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Casey Watkins, Brandon Ellison, and Brian Pope

90% approve of CEO

68% positive business outlook

Symmetry Financial Group has an employee rating of 3.6 out of 5 stars, based on 1,079 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have a good working experience there. The Symmetry Financial Group employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Insurance industry (3.6 stars).

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2.0
Feb 12, 2015

Think twice !!

Anonymous employee
Recommend
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Pros

They offer lots of training calls to increase your ability to sell insurance policies and recruit other sales agents.

Cons

I bought into their stories of incredible sales results and high income if you just follow the SFG system. Unfortunately, that required me to rack up debt on my credit card buying leads from the company. Because the rates on the insurance policies were so high, most of the policies I sold would cancel within a month or two... Requiring me to pay back my commission to the insurance company! In the end I had spent thousands of dollars more buying leads from SFG than I ever made selling their policies.

3.0
Jul 31, 2015
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

*You can own your own schedule - no boss telling you what to do *Online training that you can access on your own time *Quality leadership, if you end up on the right team (Find the SWAT team if you're coming on board - they have the highest retention rates and the best tools for agents to use) *They're not super picky about who they hire - they may give you a chance where another company may not *Six figure income available if you're someone who is interested in and good at recruiting *Bottom line, it's a decent opportunity, and you can learn a lot about how to sell insurance and how to relate with people.

Cons

*Don't believe everything you hear. Ask for actual numbers / statistics / success rates / bank account statements. *As someone who has achieved far better success in this company than most, I can say from first hand experience that if you make it in the top 10-20% of agents in the company, and are ONLY selling life insurance (no advanced market and no recruiting), you can expect to make $40-$60,000 (after expenses) with very little income the following years from previous sales. *There are a lot of moving parts in this business: setting appointments (calling leads), preparing for appointments (calling underwriters and looking through agent guides to see if your client will qualify for various products), sitting on appointments (meeting clients face to face and reading their body language / getting the sale), then the paperwork of submitting business to the carriers, then the follow up of getting your business issued (calling the carriers to see what other pending requirements are holding the policy up from being issued). Finally, you need to keep track of your business expenses and manage lead expenses well. Performing poorly in any one of these areas will lower your ROI and make the business less profitable for you. As far as "would I recommend this business to a friend"? It completely depends on the friend, what they want, what they're willing to put in, and how likely I feel they are to succeed in this system. *The big money is available to those who recruit - it's quite lucrative for them... but I don't feel right about recruiting others into an opportunity where they have little chance of long term success as an agent only. *You'll hear a lot of talk in this company about how it's "Not an MLM". Well... when they have to repeat that so often... there might be something to that. It actually is a lot like an MLM, in that yes, you can make money without recruiting, but not enough to make it worth your while. *If you're someone with great ambition and the will to win, and you're someone who doesn't make excuses but takes charge of your life, then you'll be WAY better compensated at New Your Life. Find a manager near you and ask them how to get started.

2.0
Sep 18, 2018
Recommend
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Pros

I worked at SFG part-time, primarily supporting agents/field underwriters, by assisting them in contacting multiple carriers regarding statuses of electronic apps and fewer written ones; ordering initial and replacement supplies; and fulfilling any other general agent support needs. I enjoyed this introduction to the highly lucrative and profitable insurance industry and rose quickly to a more trusted position with added responsibility; and gladly accepted an invitation from one of the office's agents to attend SFG's recent Annual Conference -- August 29th to 31st -- at the Gaylord National Resort and Convention Center at National Harbor MD, since it was nearby and I wouldn't incur any major travel expenses. Initially I was impressed with the venue, to say the least. I attended the Wednesday afternoon Corporate Overview that was very informative, lighthearted and, honestly, delivered the absolute right content for someone considering joining this commission, only, based opportunity -- presenting carrier solutions, consulting and taking important applications for a variety of insurance-based financial solutions, alongside broad individual and family protection solutions; and was equally as impressed. The presenters were engaging, focused, humorous, yet very professional and well prepared; and they outlined the graduated commission structure fairly smoothly, that starts off for everyone at 60% and can go as high as 110%, so for me, it answered that very important question. More of that presentation focused on the 110% 'goal' for all SFG agents and managers; and they clearly showed how it could be attained realistically, with a commitment to dedication to learn a new skill set, hard work and incorporation of all of the voluminous training -- audio mainly with some video -- that SFG provides in its training library. So for that Wednesday almost 1 1/2 hour session, I gladly give that husband and wife team 5 Stars for that important and initial introduction to SFG. The next 2 days though were a little less impressive, where I saw more clearly how the company is structured, the leadership -- owners and managers, the extremely high earners at the top, mostly, and the real challenges a new agent would encounter, likely struggling for a lengthy period especially with the compensation so low and the standard recommendation to purchase leads to buy production. By comparison with other notable IMO competitors, SFG agents or field underwriters basically generate the majority of total compensation, not as much for themselves to benefit, but more so for their coaches, mentors, trainers, etc. -- their up-lines -- who benefit by receiving the lion's share totals of sales force or team compensation from what was referred to as "spread" on their down-line agents or team members. The most positive message conveyed both days though, by comparison, was the emphasis SFG places on its recognized top corporate culture and how they, as I was already somewhat aware, focus as much or more on leadership and personal development -- as on insurance and annuity sales -- which was clearly conveyed and demonstrated on stage, by so many of their leaders, managers and owners speaking to the attendees; and many who have risen from being broke or broken, as they would say, to being very successful with SFG in relatively short periods of time -- 3 to 6 years for many -- which is exceptional given the company is relatively young at just 9 years in business.

Cons

Since I attended the conference to hear more about the compensation model, I honestly was very disappointed to learn it’s only 60% to start, that over time can grow to 110%, but according to a chart I was shown, that increase to the top compensation would realistically take 2 ½ to 3 years, minimum, with graduated 5% commission increases usually every 2 or 3 months, however even that wasn't guaranteed. I was really surprised to hear more of that explanation, that if during that commission graduation period, an agent didn't achieve the targeted volume and other qualification factors, they would lose credit for the month(s) completed and start back at square one, for another 2 or 3 months -- that doesn’t seem either equitable or even close to being fair to adequately compensate someone for their efforts. At least the month or months they qualified could be carried over, like for a 2 month qualification example -- qualify in month 1, but not month 2; and then qualify in month 3 to earn the commission level increase by qualifying in 2 of the 3 months. Additionally, in the Corporate Overview it was mentioned that at the first true level of management where the agent is granted full and irrevocable ownership of their agency -- to be a family legacy or to do with as they please -- it was expected that agent manager would still be in the field with their team producing. That appears for the most part to be the exception and not the norm; and it was clear there are many who have been granted agency ownership, stopped producing on a consistent and regular basis, focus more on recruiting and hiring new people to replace so many who appear to leave regularly, and basically earn a living off of those in their down-line. This appears to be even more prevalent at the highest levels where managers mostly manage, but not train; and have a lot of free time while earning handsomely on their down-line agents’ and lower level managers’ commissions “spread” and additionally with what was described as equity bonuses -- limited to some of those in the 110% commission category. All of that better explained why the commission starts so low and agents most often have lengthy periods before they start earning decent incomes and six-figures, having to buy leads, recommended weekly, that are the source of carrier policy contracts issued and resulting commissions. Additionally, there was a lot of talk about SFG's revenue growth the past 9 years and how in 2017 it exceeded $70MM, but upon further off-line discussions and gathering of real numbers, that revenue amount apparently represents application contracts submitted to carriers, that may or may not have been approved and issued, but there was no talk of actual real revenue attained. Finally, I know from the limited time I worked in a support position the insurance industry is in the Top 5 Wealth Industries in the country, so whatever SFG is actually earning it's definitely in the millions of dollars. However, it was very hard to see and realize that, where for all of the sessions, the only refreshments made available to those of us paying over $100 to attend -- Thursday and Friday from 8:00 AM to well beyond 6:30-7:00 PM with only short breaks -- were water from top loading coolers dispensed in disposable cone paper cups. The attendance was well over 3,000 people, so also there was no way for many who maybe hadn't had breakfast to get lunch in the Gaylord complex with its limited restaurant capacity on the lower floors in the building; and then return in time to participate in the regular human stampede to get a decent unreserved seat for the many sessions -- general and breakout ones. Finally, in order for people to be attentive, focused and refreshed, it's just common sense that at an event like that conference, there maybe should have been something nutritional and/or refreshing readily available, at all times, to help people get through the rest of the day while being immersed in so much positive and valuable information from all, extremely important to be retained, including invited guests and entertainers who spoke on stage; and that was an area where SFG clearly dropped the ball and could have used some of the extra money paid to those at the top and made available even something as minimal as a box lunch for those who weren't allowed to attend or weren't invited to the SFG scheduled lunch event/meeting with the owners -- sure there could have been something arranged for all for lunch in that huge facility, similar to the finale dinner Friday night where all attendees were present.

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