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3.3

63% would recommend to a friend

(152 total reviews)

Jeff Bezos

69% approve of CEO

52% positive business outlook

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4.0
Apr 30, 2016
Recommend
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Pros

The company is motivated to not only build, but also really market their products. Level doesn't stand in the way of being able to contribute. I love my team and the products we have built together. Local leadership is smart and demanding in a good way. At the very top Jeff is a great business leader and it is motivating to work for a company with that level of performance.

Cons

Not a lot of perks like free food compared to other Si valley companies. Titles tend to be low compared to other companies and promotions beyond a certain level are very difficult. Raises are very small, but offset by the stock performance.

1.0
Apr 25, 2016
Recommend
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Pros

- It is possible to get away with pretty mediocre work. Look around, and you'll find huge teams of people doing nothing. If you want to do nothing too, this is a great place to be. - Quite a few people get hired away by better companies. Lots of employees ride the "they make hardware" reputation to other companies that want to get into the hardware game. Don't be fooled. Engineers from Lab126 are like an infestation. One will show up, and 20 others will follow to totally screw up your team. They move in pods, and the only thing they're good at is political games. - Cash bonus to start. When you start, stock vestiture is 5%, 15%, 40%, 40%. This is totally broken, so they make up the up front with cash. If the stock swings around, you've got cash for the first two years.

Cons

- A very political backstabbing company. Seriously, you have to learn to how to curry favor and build little pods of political power. If you don't, it doesn't matter how good your work is. Everything is about politics at Amazon. - Compensation model screws you over if the stock does well. This one is hard to explain, because nobody else does it this way. If the stock from a previous grant does well, it gets counted against you in later years. Let's say you got 400 shares at $100 a share (example numbers). You have an awesome year, get a great rating, etc, and the stock doubles to $200 a share! Great! Except the HR people have calculated your "target compensation" for the stock appreciating 15% year over year. You would have gotten share counts of 20, 60, 160, 160 after years 1, 2, 3, 4. Let's look at year 3. HR assumes 15% year over year, so a share price of ~$152.09 for 160 shares, or $24,334. Maybe they have you pegged for $30,000 of "target" stock compensation. If you're anything other than perfectly timed, your first year of review won't count. You get jack. But let's say you came in at review time, so you have a one year lead. At a "target" of $30,000 of stock at year 3, they would give you another 37 shares to get you to 197 shares vesting in year 3. But the stock went up to $200/share. So they figure a continued 15% appreciation year over year, and they assume that the new 3 year price is $264.5/share. Taken against the 160 shares you already have banked from your signing bonus, they figure you'll be getting $42,320 after year 3, which is more than your "target". So what do you get for your first annual bonus in RSU's vesting after year 3? Nothing. That's right. Nothing. You get nothing because you're "already hitting your target compensation with previous grants." The only thing you get is the potential that, if the stock doesn't do great or you don't get a stellar review, you'll be staring a huge pay cut in the face. It's hard to grasp, because it's so stupid. If the stock goes down, you obviously lose. If the stock goes up, Amazon takes credit for the price at vesting, not at grant time. What a bunch of jerks. - Senior management in Seattle is stupid. All of these broken incentives and backstabbing come from Seattle policies and mismanagement of Lab126. You will feel like a misunderstood subsidiary being managed into the ground by know-nothing jerks who think they walk on water. - The products are embarrassing. Fire phone? Echo Tap? $50 tablets that seem like a good idea until you use them? Try explaining to your friends and family why you work on products that you yourself don't use or recommend. - Virtually impossible to climb unless you are willing to play political games. Everything is about trading favors, and you have to be willing to throw good engineering away to get ahead. It will suck your soul out of you.

1.0
Mar 31, 2016

Toxic Political Environment

Anonymous employee
Recommend
CEO approval
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Pros

Good pay, tons of RSUs. Opportunity to meet some good coworkers. I met Jeff once and he was a great guy and positive and inspiring (at least based on my limited interaction).

Cons

Unless you (or your manager) want to play the politics game, you won't get too far ahead here. I was bored out of my mind and was not challenged at all during my time here. There was too much negativity going around to get anything innovative done. This is a great stepping stone for new graduates trying to learn basics or management wanting to throw other teams under the bus to get ahead, but that's pretty much it.

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