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NCSA College Recruiting

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NCSA College Recruiting reviews

3.0

46% would recommend to a friend

(774 total reviews)

Brent Richard

58% approve of CEO

46% positive business outlook

NCSA College Recruiting has an employee rating of 3.0 out of 5 stars, based on 774 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have an average working experience there. The NCSA College Recruiting employee rating is 22% below average for employers within the Arts, Entertainment & Recreation industry (3.9 stars).

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774 reviews
2.0
Sep 24, 2018
Recommend
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Pros

***When founder of NCSA, Chris Krause, owned and operated the company there were so many more pros than this. Below is what is left under the new venture capitalist group.*** Talk about sports. Work from home. Excellent recruiting technology Good health benefits Help educate student athletes on the process and at least think about a plan for their future

Cons

***NCSA was founded on the premise of connecting academically and athletically qualified student-athletes with college coaches. After the venture capitalist group took over things turned unethical. The message from the VPs is to sell everybody whether they are athletically and academically qualified or not. I question how ethical it is to try to sell families with low income the dream of free tuition through athletics when you know their child has no chance based on their athletic background. See uploaded photo of sales training slide *** Work 7 days per week. You have 1 day “off” per week which just means you aren’t doing full product demos/sales with families that night. You are still required to do introduction and follow up calls that day. Used to be able to make peace with the schedule and hours because the money was solid ($90-$120k) but no longer the case. The company is hiring like crazy so leads are diluted. Company sales revenues keep going up while individual specialist earnings continue to go down.

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NCSA College Recruiting Response
7y
First off, thank you for your 8+ years!! I would hope that someone who has been dedicated to NCSA for that long would have given us a better star rating, so I hope you’ll reach out to someone directly if you haven’t already to address some of these concerns directly. I personally would love to talk to you. In your position as a Recruiting Specialist, it is important you provide our families the RIGHT package that fits their recruiting needs in addition to their financial needs. If you find a low-income family, you know we have discounted memberships for them in addition to free memberships for families who qualify for our All in Award. Please make sure you’re offering these options. Also, as you know, it’s our Recruiting Coach’s job to evaluate our clients academically and athletically. Although it happens rarely, if they determine a student-athlete is not qualified to compete at the college level, then we cannot market these student-athletes to college coaches and do offer refunds to those families. NCSA has remained committed to our Recruiting Specialists to keep a consistent compensation plan year over year after previously receiving complaints for changing it too often. We evaluate compensation across departments every year to remain competitive and will do so again for the upcoming year. Finally, I’m not sure what your VP said to you about Glassdoor, but I’m sorry if it felt like a bother or insincere. We do occasionally ask our teammates to write reviews on Glassdoor, as this is a Glassdoor best practice. These reviews are important to job seekers and is a way for our team members to share their anonymous feedback and tell their future teammates what it’s like to work here.
1.0
Jan 18, 2017
Recommend
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Pros

Sports. Work from home. Can be great pay.

Cons

When I took my job as a 'Head Scout' at this company I could not have been more excited. I get to talk sports at home, for a job, make $100k, AND help kids get college scholarships? Sounds like the dream job! Then I worked there and this is where things went downhill. If you want to have no life at all but make a lot of money, maybe I haven't lost you yet. A typical day includes making calls to families who have been cold called by a 'Scout' (aka some kid fresh out of college who says anything to the family to take a meeting with a 'Head Scout' cause it's free). Your morning is filled with calling the families you have scheduled in your calendar for that night and the next to 'confirm' the meeting. Most of the time you don't get answers, they don't understand what the call is about, or ask if it costs money (because NCSA doesn't say it costs money, doesn't tell anyone their prices because they are very expensive, and the 'Scouts' tell the families its a 'free evaluation'. So besides trying to confirm your meetings you will be making follow up calls to families that said no on the phone during your 'evaluation' (we will get to the evaluation in a bit) but need to try and re-sell them on what the cost of recruiting will be without NCSA. Mix in some video conferencing meeting along with meetings with your micromanaging manager talking to you and reviewing your 'calls' and how you need to open your calendar up to hit more meetings. This happens OVER and OVER and OVER. That's your job for 3 hours in the morning. Since NCSA is based out of Chicago, that's typically from 9am to noon. From noon until 430 you are 'free'. But make sure you're checking your phone constantly for e-mails that come through cause you need to make sure you're not missing anything. Typical amount of e-mails that come through per day are around 60-75. Now, starts the second half of your day. So from about 4:30-5 you are prepping for your calls, seeing what families cancelled their 'free evaluation' because they asked their coach, read reviews online, heard somewhere it costs money and are no longer interested. Your slots are an hour and 15 minutes long. So you work 5-6:15, 6:15-7:30, 7:30-8:45, 8:45-10, 10-11:15 and if you want to hit your numbers or work seven days a week, you will try and get your 11:15pm - 12:30am slot filled also. That is your typical day Monday - Thursday. Friday lots of people will work cause they are under pressure to get more meetings or hit certain sales numbers so they will add in a couple meetings as well. Then the fun and exciting weekend. Now on Saturday and Sunday, you are expected to work both days technically your actual 'day off' is Friday. So wake up and do meetings from 8am to 1pm on Saturday and then on Sunday, some guys will do anywhere from 5-10 meetings. Well, at least open up their calendars for that many. Many will fall out because families usually have lives on weekends and are doing things with their family and friends. But can you leave to go do something if a family doesn't show up? Nope. Because your next call is only an hour from then and theres not enough time to do anything but sit and maybe grab a snack and catch a bit of Sportscenter. You want time with your family? Your kids? Your friends? Go to sporting events? Watch your nephews mid-week game? Go out to eat with people? Have a social life? Well that all goes out the window with this job. I can't call it a career because there is no career advancement what so ever. The "VP's" for the most part are people that do a whole lot of nothing but micromanage, sit on meetings, and talk about how to improve your call and get more meetings set up. Now during your 'evaluations' with the family you will deal with people that have no money to pay for such an expensive service for something they can do on their own, people that thought the call was a 'free evaluation', questions on how do we work specifically with college coaches (ask around, I would honestly say the majority don't use or like information that NCSA sends the coaches), how do we evaluate their kid besides talking to them on the phone (most kids have no video at all and no varsity experience but as long as they'll pay, we will take them). Now during your call, your first 10-20 minutes is to build rapport with the family to get them to 'trust you' and then you begin your hard sell. Covering the same exact talk track family after family after family, day after day after day. You have to show them the webpage, how it works and how it will be beneficial to their needs. So just do a quick favor, go to Best Buy or ESPN or whatever site you want, and now imagine you have to explain how to use that site for 5-6 hours a night, day in and day out. The site doesn't change, just the person you're talking to does. Sounds new and exciting every night right? This has to be the most monotonous job in the world. Everything on the NCSA site can be done for free if you do a simple Google search but it is nice for families to have in one place. The software is definitely above average and fairly simple to use. But that's not why families enroll. They enroll because the messaging is we will help their student athlete find the college of their dreams and get recruited to PLAY at that school because of our connections, our knowledge and our guidance. What would you say one 'Recruiting Coach' could handle in getting to know each student athlete and their families, following up how their season is going, help them make better videos, talk about whats been new, what schools they have been talking to, how to follow up with them, how to negotiate scholarships, how to get financial aid, etc etc etc? 10? 50? 100 student athletes and families at once? Actually, when you enroll a family, you NEVER speak to them ever again cause they all get sent to a recruiting coach who has on average of OVER 1,000 different student athletes to manage and keep track of. You think your high dollar investment would get you a little more personal attention, but unfortunately for the families and the student athlete, it doesn't. If you want to work 6-7 days a week from home, sell a product that doesn't live up to its messaging, live in a bubble, miss out of life but make a lot of money, then NCSA is your job. The turnover is ridiculously high for a reason but for some, all the above is worth it. This is the 100% reality of this job and if someone tells you any different, they are flat out being dishonest. Best of luck to anyone reading this. I hope it helps one way or another.

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NCSA College Recruiting Response
9y
Thank you for your feedback. I see you are no longer with NCSA and I wish you would have shared your concerns while you were still part of our team. I would like to address a few of your points, as they are not based in reality. You state that NCSA doesn’t say it costs money. This is not accurate. While it is true that pricing details are not publicly displayed, we do make it very clear that there is a fee for premium services on our website - http://www.ncsasports.org/who-is-ncsa/what-does-ncsa-do/what-does-ncsa-cost-how-much. In addition, Specialists have the ability to offer discounts and even free memberships for families in financial need, and Specialists activate student-athletes so they have more access to our free tools. This activation is 100% free. Our managers consistently reiterate that when you are not working, you should not be working. This includes checking emails. You say that nothing will change, but I beg to differ. Every year NCSA gets better for our clients and our internal teammates. Our compensation plans, benefits, hours, and much more look very different than they did three, two, or even one year ago. I hope you are doing well in your new endeavor.
2.0
Jul 8, 2019
Recommend
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Pros

NCSA's product is rivaled by none, truly. What they can provide to families (paid or free) is amazing. They are the #1 recruiting company in the world and are used by college coaches for a reason, they truly do help connect athletes. While their website is great for connecting, it could use an update (servers go down a fair amount, accounts/pages look dated, very light filter to actually join). But overall it is a great product. If you call this company a scam, you're lying and you truly don't understand what NCSA provides, a great example of that would be their All-in Award. Another pro is that there are truly good people working there as well. Coworkers and some managers are great people and truly believe they're attempting to help high school athletes ( I sure did initially).

Cons

Okay, here's where is very rough. NCSA as a whole is a company designed to connect student athletes to college coaches, but it quickly developed into a telemarketing company. I'll break down each part so you can get a good understanding of why I mention each part. On the Glassdoor NCSA is reviewed as a 3.1 out of 5 for "work life balance" and boy is that very inaccurate. You're required to do 45 hours a week, minimum. Okay that's fine, you're paid hourly and get OT, however you are pressured every week to work weekends. Is it the first weekend of the month? Better work to get a head start on this month you need to change kids lives. Have a holiday off (which they give you off fairly) you better work the weekend because families are on vacation and you need well over 130+ sets this month to get goal or you'll get written up. You could be the top performer for 2 months on your team and still get written up the next month for being a few sets short and having PTO (true story). They allow most people to work from home, some what to eliminate the commute (which can be bad because of location, that Chicago) but mostly to work extra. There is extremely high turnover and they're used to burning out post college athletes looking for a job because they didn't get an internship or had poor grades. The quality of athletes has really diminished the product too, they allow almost anyone in because of the high pressure they put on workers to succeed. This is a sales job, period. You aren't a "recruiting coordinator", you're a telemarketer who makes anywhere from 50 - 110 calls a day (depending on your "sets" more info on that later). You aren't a scout, you make sure the kid played a day of a sport and then set them up for a meeting. Your actual evaluation of a kid doesn't matter because "every kid is recruitable" (that's a quote from management, not made up). I've had and heard managers say that, because the product itself is diminished due to of no filter for these kids. Are you 5'2, 120 LBS who was a starter on a 0-10 football team? (For reference that kid would never see the field at any college) Set a time to talk to our "coach" blah blah to learn how to get recruited! The leads that they give you come from several very reputable and good pipelines, but most of your leads come from parents signing kids for their high school and clicked a random box. They want you to pass in any kid that touched a field or ran on a track because they need to hit their "aggressive" sales numbers. The meetings you set will be extremely hit or miss on whether you get the sale or not for a multitude of reasons beyond your control. For one, they tell you to "set your specialist up for success" by telling them that this "coach" (and many have extensive backgrounds or achievements truly, then you also have your 300 lb old men who wear sweat shorts to work all day). But they can suck at their job too, you're told you need to "fill their calendars" because it's all a #'s game. Make as many calls as you can to hopefully get 40% of your families to show up for a meeting (at that % you're an all star), to hopefully get a close rate of 30% because you can't get a single parent to drop $900 on a LinkedIn premium plus 1 highlight tape (they can make for free most likely). Oh yeah, about 80% of the leads you get will be reused or repeat leads because their filtration is a joke almost, and they say you should only call a family 3 times. However they don't care how many times a family gets called you will get your phone blown up for the sales call. You have to make so many dials in comparison to your sets, there's a nice little chart, and if you don't hit it be prepared to be shamed in front of your coworkers because "you're not a team player and let everyone else down." Too many negatives outweigh the positives sadly. There's many more however these are the biggest highlights.

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NCSA College Recruiting Response
6y
I appreciate the thought that went into your review. It is clear you’ve given a lot of thought to all sides of our organization. The average Recruiting Coordinator works 45 hours/week and very few exceed 50 hours/week. This is far from excessive for a commission-based sales role. Yes, the Recruiting Coordinator role is a sales role and we are very upfront about that during the hiring process. You are correct when you say that “you aren’t a scout”. The company moved away from “scouting” terminology years ago and the role of the Recruiting Coordinator is to contact families who have submitted information to NCSA, answer their basic questions, see if the student-athlete meets some basic qualifications, and if so, to schedule a meeting with a Recruiting Specialist who will spend more time with the family and more thoroughly assess the student-athlete’s recruiting progress. NCSA does have recruiting guidelines for each sport, and the reality is that if a family has the right expectations, we typically we can help them find a place to play. College coaches from all levels including junior college and club programs lean on NCSA to help them fill their rosters. If anything, coaches ask us for more players – they do not complain that the pool is diluted because we provide a variety of search filters and only send them targeted lists of student-athletes who make sense for their school. As you note, the NCSA product works, and it works for athletes at all different talent levels. We do have a screening process in place and will provide a refund if one or our Recruiting Coach ever determines that we are not able to help an athlete after they have enrolled. As you mention, I fully believe that with every single interaction, we can change the lives of student-athletes. I have read the thank you notes and personally seen many examples of profound results. We are growing the business and in turn helping more student-athletes reach their dreams. As with any growing business, I do recognize that there are challenges. At NCSA we have always found ways to overcome any speed bump or obstacle we have faced throughout our nearly 20-year history. I appreciate and take to heart your advice. You are correct that the NCSA product is second to none, and the All-In Award is an important vehicle to help financially challenged families obtain access to our premium recruiting memberships. We are fortunate to have a large team of incredible people supporting our mission of helping student-athletes have a positive recruiting experience and ultimately find the best possible college fit.
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